Boat Fishing-Introduction.

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Daisy
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Boat Fishing-Introduction.

Post by Daisy » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:17 pm

There are many newcomers to the wonderful sport of fishing and it is time to update the Langebaan “Fishing the Daisy way” .
The lagoon is very special. It is one of only three true lagoons in the world and the only one in Africa. There are no rivers flowing into it and it was shaped by the rise and fall of the sea levels. It is a healthy and dynamic system which results in good numbers of fish stocks. By using the information in this article, the fisherman should be able to catch fish in the lagoon.

The equipment required:
*Use light tackle like a 6ft rod from boats.
*Fishing line should be about 10kg.
* A coffee grinder reel like the Daiwa BG series might be the best option for fishing the lagoon.
*White Stump-1,0 to 2,0 hook size and trace length about 750mm.A light sliding sinker works best.
*Kob and Geelbek-6,0 hook size and trace length 750mm.A light sliding sinker works best.
*Yellowtail-6,0 hook size and a 1 meter trace with no sinker. When the water flow is strong, then a light sinker will be required. Let the line out as far as possible.
*Elf (Shad)-4,0 hook size and no sinker as Elf bites on the surface. Trace should be 500mm plus a short steel trace as the sharp teeth of Elf might bite the line off. When fishing for Kob in the lagoon, it might be best to also use a short steel trace as the chances are good that Elf can be around as well. Some fishermen might want to use a float when fishing for Elf, but there is always the frustration that a seagull will steal the bait on the surface. The average depth of the lagoon is only 4 meter ,so the question should be asked if a float will really be required.
*A sharp knife and a wet rag will be needed .Never handle the fish with your bare hands.

Bait required:
It is of the outmost importance that the bait is fresh. So many fishermen spend money on driving all the way to fish the lagoon and then arrive with old bait. It should be noted that the bait on the hook must look as natural as possible. I will deal with this matter later when we talk about baiting up for a specific specie.
Many old Langebaners also believe that the bait to be used in the lagoon, should be the normal type of bait found in the lagoon. Personally I am not so sure about this as Pike works fairly well, also Skipjack belly and both are not natural lagoon types of bait. Then again, red bait can be found anywhere in the lagoon, but it only works on certain days.
Long strips of bait always work much better than a ball of bait. One needs to understand what part of the bait will be taken by the different type of fish and by knowing this, it is possible to hook the bait up according to the type of fish you want to target. Here is the general rule:
*Stump will take the head of a prawn and only then the tail.
*Yellowtail will take the head of the pilchard.
*Elf will take the tail of the pilchard.
*Kob and Geelbek will take the belly of the pilchard.
*White mussel is a good all-rounder type of bait and it is important to have the guts hanging loose at the bottom of the hook as this part will be taken first by the fish.
*Chokka will be taken by a Smooth Hound shark before any other fish could reach it,but a well beaten strip of chokka together with a fresh pilchard will be deadly for Kob and Geelbek.
*Red bait is not very popular in the lagoon, although there is plenty red bait available in the lagoon.
*Bloodworm is a miracle bait to all fish, but it is normally only used to catch Steenbras in the lagoon.
*Black mussel works well if it is chummed and then used, but with the strong current in the lagoon, it works better in calmer waters like close to Spreeuwalle.
*Artificial baits are not popular and lures are not often used.Pink prawn,shrimps,crayfish and other types of shellfish are not being used with success.
* A Strip of Steenjie is a fantastic bait for Kob.Harders will work,but Pilchard is better.Live bait does not do the job well as the strong in/out tide kills it quickly.

Fish behaviour:
*It is believed that the fish in the lagoon hardly ever leaves the lagoon. Not even in winter. It makes sense too as the water in the lagoon is much warmer than in the open sea and there is enough food in the lagoon all year round.
*When the water temperature is at 18 deg,then conditions are ideal. Below 15 deg and the fish would hardly have enough energy to swim,let alone feeding.Temperatures above 22deg could result in the fish going off the bite.
*The fish in the lagoon is nervous as there are not enough hiding places like gullies and rocks and the lagoon is shallow. So a nice calm, windless day make them more vulnerable and they go into hiding. The experienced fisherman would therefore prefer a wind of about 25 km/h which will make the water “alive” and also allow the food to be lifted to the surface.
*The water in the lagoon is heated mainly by the sun.The tide will push the water right down to the southern parts and the water will heat up with about 4 deg.With outgoing tide, the fish will follow the warmer water and return again deeper south in the lagoon as cold water pushes in from the sea with incoming tide.
*Discoloured water works with most fish species as this allows them better protection not to be seen by their predators.Kob for instance hunt on smell ,so they don`t need to see the bait.White Stump on the other hand hunts on sight and therefore clearer water is preferred. Elf likes water with a bit of foam at the surface.
*White Stump can handle rather cold water as colder water is also clear water which they prefer.Kob,Geelbek and Yellow Tail needs water that is at least 18 deg.Elf will hunt in water of 16 deg ,right up to 20 deg,even higher,but one thing Elf cannot handle is a change in water temperature.
*In the lagoon Elf will hunt as from two hours before tide turn and then the Kob will start until two hours after tide turn.
*The best time to catch Kob and Geelbek is just before daybreak or just after sunset. That is the time when they will feel safe. Smaller size Elf will also feed during dark, while the bigger Elf will hunt during the day.
*Full moon is the best time to catch Steenbras while other species seems to bite less during Spring tide in the lagoon.It is also noted that when a cold front approaches, then the White Stump seems to go off the bite and swim just below the surface as if they are “trekking”.
*Where there are rocks one could expect good size Kolstert year round.

How to bait up:
*We know that Elf takes the tail of the Pilchard,Yellowtail the head and Kob and Geelbek the belly.So ok we can bait up accordingly for each of the species, or even better, put a whole Pilchard on the hook and target any of the species above.Normally the sleeved pilchard seems to be fresher and of better quality. Use a short steel trace anytime, even though some fishermen will tell us that the fish will spit out the bait the moment it feels the steel.This could well be the case, but in my view the variable is too small to really make a difference, so use a short steel trace.
Use a bait needle and clip it to the steel trace pushing it through the mouth of the pilchard and exist at the belly side just before the tail.Clip the hook on and pull the hook inside the Pilchard while the hook still sits proud.Only tie the bottom lip of the Pilchard down with a string of cotton. You might want to tie a well beaten long strip of chokka in front of the pilchard`s mouth that hang loose.Change the bait often.
*White mussel must be hooked from the tongue by making circular movements ,each time penetrating the mussel with the hook and then let the guts hang loose at the bottom.Tie only the top part of the tongue down not overdoing it.
*With prawn you should turn it upside down and enter it with the hook where the tail meets the body. Push the hook right through the head and only tie the tip of the tail down. Do not overdo this as it needs to look natural.

The hook-up:
*Always ensure that the drag on your reel is fairly loose. And do not try to fiddle with it once you have a fish on. It is important that the line tension is always there when you reel in. The moment you stop reeling in, it could happen that the fish releases itself.
*When a Elf takes the bait, then reel in as fast as you can. It might want to do a tail walk and it is then that you will get a “speed wobble” and the fish will come loose. So keep this in mind. Elf will take the bait hard and come to the surface.
*Kob and Geelbek might nibble at the bait making you think it is a small steentjie,but it is only cleaning the bait taking most of the scales off before swallowing it. So when this happens, give it a few seconds and then strike.
*Yellow tail and Smooth Hounds will take the bait by force and then run. The shark will dive low and try to swim around you. Yellow Tail will only stop after taking about 100 meter of line and will repeat this once it gets close to the angler. Be patient.
*With Kob there will be a distinct head shaking taking place, but the fight is not fierce, it will only shake it`s head and pull heavy.
*White Stump will suck on the bait in colder water and take it vigorously in warmer water.
*The main thing to remember is not to strike the bait too hard. Take your time and play the fish. Use the tip of your rod to assist you.

Where to fish the Baan:
1)The Line
This is the best spot for boat fishermen.A good spot for Kob,Elf,Geelbek,Smooths and at times also Yellowtail round about December to February. It is also the best area to get Steenbras,but there is only one small hole where they can be found. Stumps can also be around, but it is not the best area for Stumps.Average dept=5meter
2)Blinde Keel
The water is not so strong here. It is mainly an area for Elf during the summer months. Average dept=4meter
3)Shark bay
Ideal spot for shore anglers who are prepared to wade quite deep and fish by standing in the water. This is a good spot for Elf,Kob and Smooths.
Average dept=4meter and sandy bottom.
4)10 meter hole
Normally there is a lot of small fish like small Stumps and Steentjies in this deep hole, but generally speaking not a very productive site.
5)Middle Keel
This is a perfect spot for big Stumps.Fish close to the sandbank that runs parallel with the keel. Close to the sandbank it is 5meter deep.
6)Konstabelkop
There are deep holes which are very productive for all types of fish.Some of the locals prefer this area to any other spot,but personally I am not too fond about it as one gets stuck easily to red bait koppe.
7)Irvan`s hole
During the months of January to March one can expect very good size Stumps in this area.Average dept=5 meter
8)Donkergat
Stay clear of the military waters. It is best to drift in this area and target Stumps. One can also be in for a surprise in terms of Kob.
Average dept=7 meter Note ..stay away from the deep channel which is sandy as this is not very productive. So look for gullies where the fish will hide.
9)The Pipe
One can always catch Stumps here. As it is close to the Island, one can also pick up a good size Kolstert closer to the rocks at the Island. Average dept=4 meter. Make sure you fish away from the seaweed.
10)The Island
When the wind blows from the south, then this is a place to “hide” from it and average size Stumps can be expected.Dept=4/5 meter.
11)The Spit
Those that target Smooth Hounds from the shore would opt for this area first.Not ideal for boats.
12)Palletjies
This is the most popular site for the shore angler.The drop off is very steep and sharp. Not ideal for boats.
13)The Pump house area at Spreeuwalle
Big Kob will be around as from December to April.After a strong South Easter,one should take the trouble to fish the Walle.Good size Stump will often be taken in large numbers here.

When to find what species
*Stumps average size September to December.The bigger sizes will be biting during March.Full moon and a cold front approaching are not the best conditions.
*Elf .The season is close during October and November. Good catches are made in January and February.
*Kob will be in the lagoon from December to April.During this time one can also expect catches of Geelbek.
*Other species are few and it is difficult to pin it to a specific time frame.

I trust that this short guide will assist you in your boat fishing.....Daisy.

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Re: Boat Fishing-Introduction.

Post by Bingo » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:49 pm

Dankie vir al die nuttige inligting Daisy. Elke spot het maar sy eie maniere en dit help altyd om n bietjie inligting soos in jou post verskaf,te kan he.

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Re: Boat Fishing-Introduction.

Post by landshark » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:34 pm

Indeed quality info from a master of Langebaan.

Many thanks for posting Daisy!

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Re: Boat Fishing-Introduction.

Post by Willemossel » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:45 pm

Nice usefull info, now just to get co-ordinates for those spots...

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Re: Boat Fishing-Introduction.

Post by Daisy » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:06 am

Willemossel wrote:Nice usefull info, now just to get co-ordinates for those spots...
This is a tuff one as in the lagoon a spot is only big enough to take one or two boats.It is not like in the sea where reefs are bigger,we are talking about small sandbanks that move all the time.I have given Google Earth spots which should enable you to get close to the spot and by using your fishfinder,you can quite accurately get to the spot.
http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php ... orum_id=43

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Re: Boat Fishing-Introduction.

Post by bakgat » Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:04 pm

Ek is taamlik nuut in die baan en ek weet nie waar meeste van die gate is nie, ek sien al die name in die pos hierbo, maar ek weet nie waar die meeste is nie. Kan ons nie dalk n kaart iewers kry van die lagoon met die plekke op nie?

Ek is baie bly oor die website en voel dit kan n bron van waardevolle inligting word vir almal.

Ek wil ook almal beroep om die Baan skoon te hou, ek sien gereeld koeldrank bottels ens druif in die Lagoon, as ons almal ons deel doen sal hy skoon bly! :D

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Re: Boat Fishing-Introduction.

Post by Daisy » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:47 am

bakgat wrote:Ek is taamlik nuut in die baan en ek weet nie waar meeste van die gate is nie, ek sien al die name in die pos hierbo, maar ek weet nie waar die meeste is nie. Kan ons nie dalk n kaart iewers kry van die lagoon met die plekke op nie?

Ek is baie bly oor die website en voel dit kan n bron van waardevolle inligting word vir almal.

Ek wil ook almal beroep om die Baan skoon te hou, ek sien gereeld koeldrank bottels ens druif in die Lagoon, as ons almal ons deel doen sal hy skoon bly! :D
Bakgat kyk hierbo is n web site gemerk as "Sealine" al die spots is daar van n Google Earth print....lees dit asb weer.

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Re: Boat Fishing-Introduction.

Post by popeye » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:01 pm

ek het al probeer daar registrerr, maar ek kry dit net nie reg.

wie sukkel ook?

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Re: Boat Fishing-Introduction.

Post by will101 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:16 pm

Hier's die pics, hoop nie jy gee om nie Daisy - hoop om ook die naweek 'n stywe lyn te kry daar by julle!
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